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    May 17, 2013
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>> hey! >> hey, kid! [laughs] [tires squeal] [laughter] >> aah! godzilla! [godzilla roaring] [laughter] ♪ >> yeah! oh! [laughs] >> help! my baby's on fire! [laughter] [vomits] [laughter] >> thank you. [baby gurgling]
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[laughter] >> see you next season. good night. [cheers and applause] -- from comedy central world news headquarters in new york this is the daily show with jon stewart. (cheers and applause) >> jon: hey, welcome to the daily show, my name is jon stewart. oh, do we have a show for you tonight. my guest, my guest tonight george packer, he is author of "the unwinding" the nonvision fiction book about america on the verge of dystopian could lapts. -- collapse. (laughter) i hope they have-- but first
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it seems like only yesterday that barack hussein obama began his second term as president with high hopes. but now just four months later he finds himself mired in an index caseable downward fall where the only congressional action can count on is punitive in nature. he has entered into a three and a half year race of [bleep] (laughter) his only hope, the media. (laughter) with the attention span of a concussed goldfish. more of a problem than would you think for goldfish. it's not the bowl as much as sometimes the threshure chest they can run into. >> the race for 2016 already heating up. >> the race for 2016. >> 12016. >> 2016. >> 2016. >> fast approaching. >> there's still almost a thousand days before the first vote in the 2016 contest.
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>> jon: squirrel! squirrel! yes, a thousand days until the first primary votes and while anything can happen, they're pretty sure they know what will. >> marco rubio's multimedia appearances this weekend fueling more speculation he's considering a run for president in 2016. >> lots of buzz about ted cruz running for president. >> hillary current ton is the odds on favorite to become the democratic nominee. >> jon: wow. so 1,000 days before the first primary with zero states reporting or caring. i feel very comfortable calling the democratic primary for hillary clinton. she's the winner, hillary rodham clinton. it is clinton's second victory. it's her second victory in the ridiculously premature democratic primary. >> hill roe clinton will be the nominee of the democratic party. she will crush barack obama. she-- barack just sit it
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out. it's going to be ugly, i promise you, you heard it here first. >> jon: and the rest was alternate history. i will tell you one thing about this obama presidency, however it turns out, it has forever changed the expectation of what an american president can look like. >> for my generation but for my kids, by the time they are able to vote the idea of a black president will be almost passe t will be something that clearly obviously that can happen, a latino president, a woman. >> there will be a first latino president or latina president. there will be a first gay president. >> jon: well, openly gay. (laughter) gay. i think we just chose like five random presidents. (laughter) you know, it's a numbers game, really. now for fans of the traditional american presidency don't worry. there is still one or two
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old white fellas on the menu. vice president joe biden maybe considering a presidential bid of his own. >> don't miss the interviews unmistakable message in krots like this one. quote, i just had lunch with the president. i spent an average of 4 to 5 hours a day with him, every single day. when i speak no one doubts that i speak for the president. light rally every meeting he has i'm in. (laughter) did just read literally as white rally? (laughter) because i don't want to say on live tv like if you did that's awesome. i'm sorry saw-so-me. (laughter) sorry, you don't have to take that kind of-- from a stupid-- comedian. for more on the batch of 2016 candidates we're joined by larry wilmore, thank you so much for joining us.
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let's talk about what we have been see on the air. has the obama presidency opened the door to the oval office to other types we haven't seen as president before? women, other minorities? >> jon, sure, eventually. but you know, let's slow down a second, everybody. latinos, women, gays, we're not quite done with it yet. >> jon: right. you mean black people because the term ends after 2016 and -- >> that's right. but the first black guy's turn. let's not be hasty, jon. look, when jackie robinson broke the coloured barrier in business ball black people didn't just get one at-bat and we're done. jackie paved the way for billie-- willie and hank and skinny, jelly roll, gentleman dave, plunk, chino. >> jon: really, plunk. >> actual player, look him up, blackipedia. >> jon: blackipedia? is there a blackipedia? >> there is. >> jon: or there will be
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now. so wait, so you're say nothing latino president or a woman president. >> no, no. a black latino would be fine. >> jon: i imagine also a black woman. >> yeah but a strong black woman with a strong black woman name, you know, like kochbd leeza on quvenzhane, something that says yeah i'm the president but i could also be a perfume. (laughter) >> jon: so any ethnicity. >> as long as they're black. >> jon: for how long? larry, how long does the run of black presidents have to go? i mean do you think a democracy can survive with the same race dominating the white house for years on end over and over again? i mean is that-- the-- now that i hear that outloud i realize -- >> that's right. >> jon: i suppose white guys did have a pretty good run. >> good run? jon, you had 43 out of 44. >> jon: well, 43 and a half,
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really, i mean if you are' are's-- [bleep]. >> that's right. nice, jon. >> jon: that's what i'm saying. >> even better. jon, you guys rocked it, manment and now it's our turn. look, we want to run with the same diversity of black presidents that you had with white presidents. >> jon: that almost made sense. >> jon, obama black, cool, intlrl, woodrow will international black president. we still need a war hero black president, an ex-movie star black president, a peanut farmer black president. >> jon: can i tell you something, carter looked actually kind of nice with the corn rows. >> jon, those are peanut rows rz are they peanut rows. >> they are. >> stephen: how about a black slaft president. >> like taft, we have to have a black taft, a blaft. >> jon: yeah! >> that blaft was a bad motha. >> jon: shut yo mouth. >> i'm talking about blaft. >> jon: i can dig it. >> blaft lam-- . >> jon: the bottom line. >> that's my line, jon.
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>> jon: yeah, you're right. >> that's okay. (laughter) >> jon: i'm sorry. >> that's all right, that's okay, jon. we're having fun. let's go with it. >> jon: i was thrown back into richard roundtree mode. >> threats let's do blaft again. >> blaft! >> it's still our turn, the presidency is like the ring. it's the precious. excuse me, sorry, it's the precious, based on the novel push by sapphire, we're not ready to give up that kind of power. you know, come june 10th when john oliver is sitting in that chair will know what i am talking about. >> jon: come on, he's just here until i get back, just a few weeks in the summertime. (laughter) >> internet's right. you are funny, jon. >> jon: thank you, larry, we'll be right back is that
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(cheers and applause) >> jon: welcome back. you know, we've been talking a lot about republican efforts to reach out to minority communities. but they aren't the only ones. acknowledging that the country is changing. for instance, the walt disney co.. (laughter) >> jon: that's very amusing. like the republican party, the disme company has recently been trying to reach out to latinos. which very similar results. >> a lot of people really angry about this, disney has said to make a new movie and they wanted to trademark the
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phrase dia delos murtos or day of the dead but there was huge backlash and tonight disney is backing down saying they will give the movie a different title. >> jon: really? people were angry that disney tried to trademark the holiday on which they pray for the souls of their daed family and friends? i mean-- it's not like disney wasn't going to let them honor their dead. it's just that whenever they z they would have to pay, you know, royalties. (laughter) but the good news is the company backed down because they know how to respond to consumer demand. like when their pixar division made brave which finally featured a princess who was an independent, realistic looking teenager who just this week actually got a big disney honor. >> the redheaded heroin will be crowned disney's 11th pri ses tomorrow but-on a second. merida has undergone a makeover, an extreme one some say for her big day complete with a slimmed down look, with wider eyes and a new glamorous hair-do. >> jon: come on, the whole
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message of brave was that girls don't have to fit in with society's expectations. if they were in a sorority together new merida would be telling old merida, if you don't stop being so [bleep] awkward and boring i will literally [bleep] punt you. i will [bleep] punt you. (cheers and applause) >> jon: i don't know how to take your applause on that. (laughter) this is the kind of behavior modification that is not good for comedian to go. like when i say-- punt [bleep] punt they clap. cut to jon stewart arrested on the streets of new york wandering around yelling [bleep] punt. the comedian replied i'm only looking for applause. they even took away merida's bow and arrow. how is she supposed to kill
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the tributes from district 2. that's the same movie, isn't it? i'm sure i'm right [bleep] (laughter) (cheers and applause) what have i done to you people? (laughter) so what does disney have to say for itself? >> we reached tout disney for a comment. here is the statement they provided us saying quote merida exemplifies what it means to be a disney princess through being brave, approximationate and confident. >> jon: yeah. and literally lying in a coma waiting for a man to give you life. we have seen those movie, did i say literally, i meant light-rally. wait a second, i bet they were thinking the other kind of disney princess. because that never turns out well either. yeah. (laughter) that's going to be all over the internet tomorrow.
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(laughter) do we really need to pixelate that? if we ununpixelate that, what are we really going to see. rainbow? (laughter) bambi's head? oh, really? [bleep] punt is fine? [bleep] punt is fine but don't bring up bambi, that is over the line, stewart! (laughter) so far nearly 200,000 people have sound a petition on change.org to keep the old merida and to legalize pot. that's just automatically added to every internet petition. and in response disney assured the public that while yes the new merida will appear on some merchandise, the original merida will still exist. and that really merida just wanted to dress up for her coronation ceremony. because they think we're [bleep] idiots. you know what the problem
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here is, merida was never a disney character, shes with a pixar character. and i know disney owns pixar but it is not the same that is why-- looks like this and not this. that is why jesse from "toy story" wears chaps an not a ball gown and why holy shiftwell from cars 2, well, who [bleep] cars about cars 2 but the point is this, disney, you need to reconsider this makeover because you have an arrangement with the parents of america of which i am one. our job is to make sure the children are sitting in front of the screen. (laughter) your job is to raise them right. (laughter) and if you keep teaching them the wrong lessons, then we're going to have to start doing it ourselves and that's not cool. (laughter) we'll be rights back.
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>> welcome back, my guest tonight a staff writer for "the new yorker". he is also a best selling author whose new book is called the unwinding, the inner history of the new america, please welcome back to the program george packer. (applause) >> jon: thank you so much for joining us again. i say this by george, you've done it again. the unwinding, what's so centring, i think, about the book not just that they are great stories but the way that you tell them, you sort of follow over a period of
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years, a cast of characters that we get to know. it's a nonfiction book that reads like a documentary film in some regard. you follow it with an almost documentary dramatic structure. >> i wanted to create a portrait of america which was a kind of ambitious thing to do. >> over the course of 30 years, a generation. our adult lifetime, yours and mine. and to do that i felt i had to have both a range of people from different parts of the country, from centers of power like washington, wall street, silicon valley but also people from the forgotten places like there's a woman from youngstown, ohio, in this book, from rural north carolina, the-- areas of tampa are in the book. and the story follows them all over the course of the decade as institutions start to fail. and government fail, the bank fail, its media fails
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them. until they are sort of left on their own to figure out their own way through life. and each character in the book has to sort of reinvent him or herself in order to keep going, to survive. >> jon: i would say the human spirit comes through relatively well. human institutions do less well in the book. the quo road-- coroading of those, and the impact that has on people's lives. >> yeah there is a real contrast between the institutions that while i was growing up, counted on what i was thinking about. like political parties were these boring things that were there and provided some stuff. government agencies, banks, it wasn't this thing that created heart attacks and calamities every five or ten years. and over the course of this generation all that began to change. these institutions started to fall apart. and it meant that the individual sort of left to
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figure out their own success and survival on their own. and that's what the characters in the book have to do. >> jon: if you wrote this book about the generation previous to ours, could it have a similar, you know t didn't feel like a nostalgic book. it didn't feel like a, this country used to be great. it took care of its people. i imagine if you followed a similar group of people over a similar stretch of time from 1930 toss 1960 you might find a very similar story. >> i think the institutions were healthier in that period. but i think for-- . >> jon: for certain populations. but in other words, the institutions were restrictive. >> i was going say for example tammy thomas a black person from youngstown, one of the two many characters in the book from 19230 to 1970 she would have been a nonperson in this country. so in some ways the country opened up and granted more freedom to more people than it ever has before. and freedom is the upside to this past generation. we now have millions of choices of what we watch and
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what we eat and what we do. security is what has been lost. so the middle class jobs that were the mainstay of youngs town, steel mills, has collapsed in the late 70s. and tammy's story is about a woman trying to sur voif and keep her kids going and find a job that will last, gets a job in an auto parts factory. think she will retire there at the last minute right before her retirement, the company declares a kind of strategic bankruptcy in order to get out of its contracts and send the jobs overseas which is a very common story. that is what they are up against. she then becomes a community organizer in time for barack obama's first run for president. and it is kind of an inspiring story. >> jon: the institution of washington in finance i think come off for the mos most-- not abuse because it's not a-- in any way, it's just as the story is told, it's kind of, you see its rough as it begins to
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form in government and in finance. >> and to tell the story of those institutions, i have also created these portraits of celebrity, famous people which are kind of spread throughout the book as you follow the less famous characters. washington is represented by newt gingrich who i think history will say did more than maybe any other person to create the pretty messed up politics. >> that we know today. >> jon: you have a gentleman joe co-- konoton who works with joe biden. >> yes. >> jon: and is very idealistic because he hears him speak in 1979 in delaware. that doesn't end well for him and it certainly puts vice president biden in a very difficult light. >> well, it's a portrait of a washington relationship which is to say a transaction am you do this for me, i'll do this for you. and as soon as someone ceases to be useful, the relationship kind of ends.
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so jeff konoton has attached his dreams to joe biden. he thinks of him like the kennedies. biden is a little bit more instrumental about the relationship. and it ends up being sort of an unrequieted ambition of konoton. he then becomes a lobbyist because it turns out not only can you make a lot more money will beeeing than working government but you can also actually do better. you can succeed in a way as a junior-- . >> jon: you could affect more change but i think that was for me-- there are many heartbreaking aspects to this and many that are inspiring. that is a pretty heartbreaking episode. >> because he becomes a lobbyist, makes a ton of money in a very successful firm and then the financial crisis hits and all the characters lives are sort of converging on 2008. and that's the big upheaval and drama that changes everybody's course. jeff konoton goes back into government because his old friend ted kaufman takes
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biden's seat. and their whole ambition is to make wall street pay. and they try. >> jon: done tell me how it turns out. i don't want to know. i bet at the don't get away with it. stick around for a little bit though, okay. >> sure. >> jon: it is beautiful storytelling. it is like stud turkley but with a ken burns. the unwinding, on the book shelves may 21st. george packer, everybody.
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